OAN avril 2020

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Pour DCS le seul avion côté Axe qui colle au théâtre Normandie / Channel c'est le FW-190A8.
Au risque de me répéter :
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29 mars 2020, 22:43
DCS je pense qu'il est urgent d'attendre le P-47 et la map Channel, qui ne vont pas tarder.
Aujourd'hui pour voler sur Normandie on a le P-51D, le Spitfire Mk.IX et le FW-190A8, c'est assez maigre...
Je ne compte pas le Bf-109K4 et le FW-190D9 car pas réalistes sur ce théatre (et je ne parle même pas du I-16) :rooll:
Pour Il-2 je vous conseille de prendre Boddenplate... ce serait dommage d'être cantonné au 109F alors qu'en face on sera dans nos beaux P-47 / P-51 / P-38 / Tempest rutilants :-D

Perso je l'ai pris récemment, il était en promo "stay at home". C'est con, c'est fini.
Fallait t'énerver avant HotStick... çui-là alors, toujours dans le zig quand il faut être dans le zag :rooll:
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Moos pour IL2 je pense que l'on va rester sur Stalingrad afin d'avoir le minimum d'investissement pour cet essai tous ensemble.

Pour ce OAN d'après le résultat du sondage et même si tout le monde n'a pas répondu. Je pense que l'on va essayer TAW sur Stalingrad.

Idem pour DCS WWII d'après les conseils de Moos prenez le FW-190A8 coté Axe.
Côté Allié le P-51 vous devez probablement l'avoir.

Je ne sais pas à quel moment nous allons faire des sessions de l'un et l'autre.
C'est un peu plus facile pour DCS car on gère le temps comme on veut.
J'ai un stock de mission.

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Pour DCS j'ai P51D 190D 109K et spitMkIX j'ai aussi le M200C qui date à peu près de la même époque :D
Autrement une autre campagne online recommandée par Polux semble plus disponible que TAW et on utilise le même id pour le login, rappel:
http://ts3.virtualpilots.fi:8000/fr/?tour=34

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Tableau mis à jour pour Speedy !

Et les avions "~Corée" MiG-15bis, Sabre, MiG-19P ... tu as lesquels ?

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J'ai le meilleur. le MIG-19p c'est du brutal!

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Hello,

si Speedy a le FW190D-9, faut-il acheter le FW190A-8 ou le D-9 ? (ou les deux ?).

Si j'ai bien compris, le A-8 est mieux pour les attaques au sol mais moins fort contre le P51D.
(la gestion moteur du A-8 semble plus simple...)

A votre écoute ...

(Pour l'instant, j'ai pris la Map Normandie et WII Assets pour voler en P51D).

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Pour Moos c'est le A-8 qui colle au théâtre Normandie alors je te dirais de prendre celui-la ;)

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C'est dans la boite 8)

Mais bon, vu le sondage, ça risque de voler IL2, non ?
(IL2 c'est cool aussi 8-) )

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C'est surtout que pour le prix de deux avions et du pack DCA qu'il vous faut obligatoirement, tu as 10 avions et une map sur IL-2 plsu un vrai simu WW2
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"On n'est pas assez nombreux pour faire tout et n'importe quoi!" Hotstick, Lan janvier 2015
Mais si on était plus...

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The FW 190 was the only completely successful piston-engined fighter introduced by the German air force, the Luftwaffe, after World War II started. The Museum's Fw 190 F and D represent the "second-generation" Fw 190s which followed the Fw 190A into combat. The Fw 190D interceptor was considered by many German pilots to be the finest piston-engined fighter in Luftwaffe service.

The Fw 190 D was a reengined and reengineered development of the widely-used Fw 190 A, the first Fw 190 production model. It was viewed by its designer, Kurt Tank, as an interim design pending availability of the Ta 152. Prototype testing began in March 1942, with the unreliable air-cooled BMW 801-series engine replaced by the liquid-cooled Junkers Jumo 213A 12-cylinder engine (1776hp, boosted to 2240hp with water-methanol injection). This engine had previously been used exclusively on bombers.

The longer-nosed Fw 190 D, with a redesigned tail, was a success with pilots because of increased engine reliability and performance much superior to the Fw 190 A-8 in climb, dive and level speed. The aircraft attained 692kph (430mph) at 11,300m (20,200ft) and could fly 850kmh (480mi/h) -- performance that made it a much better interceptor against the burgeoning and fighter-escorted Allied bomber formations. Pilots considered it more than a match for the P-51D "Mustang". Armament was two 20mm Mauser MG-151/20 cannon in the wing (with a robust 250 rounds per gun) and two 13mm Rheinmetall MG-131 cannon (with 475 rounds per gun) over the engine. Small batches of Fw 190 D-0 and D-1 preproduction fighters were delivered for service evaluation in Spring and Summer 1943, just as the American 8th Air Force was starting large daylight bombing raids.

The first production variant was designated D-9 (because the previous production type was the A-8). Construction started at Marz, Cottbus, and Kassel-Waldau in Summer 1944. This was part of a major expansion in German single-engined fighter production initiated 2 years earlier by Erhard Milch, chief of aircraft procurement and supply. Over 1,000 fighters a month were now entering air defense service.

The multirole D-9 carried bombs in some versions and radar in others (the D-9/R11 and D-12/R11 night fighters) and was even faster than the D-1, reaching 709kmh (440mph) at 20,780m (37,000ft). Nicknamed "Dora-9" ("Dora" being the phonetic "D" of Luftwaffe radio traffic), service began in October 1944 with III/JG-54 (the 3d Squadron of Fighter Group 54), then I and II/JG-26 (by January 1945), and JG-2 and JG-301 (in early 1945). Allied and Luftwaffe pilots immediately dubbed it the "long-nose" ("langnasen") Fw 190. On their first operational mission with the new Fw 190 D-9, II/JG-26 shot down four British "Lancaster" bombers and one "Mosquito" fighter for the loss of one "Dora-9".

Several Fw 190 D-9 equipped groups, including JG-2 and JG-26, participated in airfield attacks by nearly 1,000 aircraft during the ill-advised "Operation Base Plate (Bodenplatte)" opening the Battle of the Bulge on January 1, 1945. JG-2 suffered 40 percent losses, and a total of 250 fighters were lost. Additionally, since the U.S. Army Air Force had begun hitting aircraft assembly plants and later oil refineries, the fighter force steadily lost effectiveness against daylight bombing raids. By the time JG-6 received 150 D-9s in April 1945, the bombing campaign had so restricted fuel supplies that only four aircraft could fly at a time.

Development continued with the D-10 through-15 versions, all of which were to be multi-role interceptor/ground-attack fighters with a wide variety of engines-the Daimler-Benz DB-603A and EB, the Junker Jumo 213EB and F with and without water methanol injection. Further development followed as the Ta 152, which is reported separately. Between 650 and 700 Fw 190 D's were completed when production ceased in 1945. Focke-Wulf's Marienburg plant, although apparently devastated by bombing, itself produced eight Fw 190 D's a day in December 1944. Figures vary, but approximately 13,250 fighters and 6,250 fighter-bomber versions were produced. This included 11,411 accepted by the Luftwaffe in 1944 alone-an increase of 375% over the previous year-and some 2,700 added in the final months of the war, even though about 30% of Fw 190 factories had been overrun by Soviet forces by February 1945.

Oddly enough, the Luftwaffe had also considered the D-9 to be an excellent torpedo bomber, and after the war, the Soviets actually put a batch of captured Fw 190 D-9s into service with the Naval Air attachment of their Baltic Fleet, where they apparently served until 1947 or 1948.

At least 11 Fw 190s exist in museums worldwide. Four of these are Fw 190 Ds, and all are in the United States -- including one at the U.S. Air Force museum at Wright-Patterson AFB, OH., and one here at NASM.

The NASM Fw 190 D-9, factory number (Werksnummer) 601088, was probably built at Focke Wulf's Bernburg plant. According to its markings, it was flown by a staff officer of the 4th Squadron of Fighter Group 3 (IV (Sturm)/JG-3 "Udet"), flying bomber intercepts from late 1944 through 1945. This Fw 190 D-9 was among a group of 21 various German aircraft gathered together in June 1945 by a team of Air Materiel Command intelligence officers from the USAAF 2d Tactical Air Force and flown out of Flensburg, Germany, to Cherbourg, France, for shipment to the United States. The Fw 190 D-9, with test registration FE+120 (for "Foreign Evaluation"), was flight tested by the USAAF Air Materiel Command at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio, and a performance report was issued in September, 1946, by 1st Lt. Charles A. Ross. The aircraft was donated to NASM by the U.S. Air Force on June 15, 1960. It has been on loan to the U.S. Air Force Museum, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH., since 1975.

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